# Archetypes and Tropes

**URL:** <https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/archetypes-and-tropes/1898>\
**Category:** Dramatica Theory\
**Created:** [June 30, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/archetypes-and-tropes/1898 "2018-06-30T22:38:26Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/archetypes-and-tropes/1898/2 "2018-07-01T13:16:00Z")

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I don’t think the tropes could serve as gists on their own, but you can relate them to Dramatica elements by using them as the “nouns” in the gists. @jhull used to include collections of thousands of such gists (fantasy, sci-fi, western, thriller, etc.) as part of a Narrative First membership; I’m not sure if he maintains those any more but you could contact him. It’s possible he plans on adding genre functions to the Subtext gist lists at some point?

An example would be take “confined spaces” and use it to make a gist for Subconscious: _fear of confined spaces_, or _being claustrophobic_.

Or take “monster” and use it to make a gist for Desire: _lusting after the monster_

The existing gists that end with “someone” or “a particular group” or “something” are particularly good for applying these things. You can end up with neat combinations you might not normally think of, like _fearing virginity_ or _lusting after insanity_.

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