# Challenge: Dramatica guessing game! **URL:** \ **Category:** Analysis and Review\ **Created:** [January 25, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861 "2017-01-25T04:50:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/1 "2017-01-25T04:50:18Z")
There is a brand new _comprehensive_ analysis on the Dramatica site that I’m really excited about. I think Jim is going to blog or post on here about it soon, but before he lets the cat out of the bag, I thought it would be cool to see if people could guess. Don’t check the analysis site, that’s cheating! **Can you guess the newly analyzed film based only on these 4 clues?** 1. The Overall Story Concern is Conceiving. 2. Hint 1 is really all you need. Really! And that’s the biggest clue of all! 3. Okay, for a bit more help, recall that like any Dramatica term it can be negative, like lack of conceiving, or poor conceptions, or another negative… EDIT: to make it a bit easier, there is a single word, which is a negative of a Conceiving, that is spoken several times in one sequence in the film. I’m sure everyone who’s seen it remembers it, because it was hilarious! (Note this word is _not_ the film’s title.) 4. Three clues is plenty but I had to make a quad so … the film came out in the 80s. EDIT2: another big clue is in the thread below ---
**Author:** ![actingpower](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/actingpower/32/2201_2.png) [@actingpower](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/actingpower)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/2 "2017-01-25T05:40:13Z")
…“Robocop?” 😛 I have no idea. I’m sure it’s some really obvious movie that I haven’t seen, “Misconceptions” or “The Big Idea” or whatever. Apparently, I need to watch more 80s movies. (EDIT: Also, it must be somewhere I didn’t look, because I didn’t see it in the Recent Updates or on the analysis page. Yes, I did try to cheat. 😉 EDIT EDIT: Found it. Won’t give it away.) ---
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/3 "2017-01-25T14:21:23Z")
🕶 Thanks for playing @actingpower. Okay, maybe the clues were too vague. To make clue 3 more specific, there is a single word, which is a negative of a Conceiving, that is spoken several times in one sequence in the film. I’m sure everyone whose seen it remembers it, because it was hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![Greg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@Greg](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Greg)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/4 "2017-01-25T15:45:13Z")
I’ll admit I wasn’t able to get it from the clues, so I cheated too. Haha. But yes I’m excited to look over that one as well. The lack of conceiving really is a good clue, I just didn’t land on quite the right phrasing to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Rod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/rod/32/240_2.png) [@Rod](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Rod)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/5 "2017-01-25T16:50:18Z")
My best guess would be Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. Long time no see, everyone, by the way! ---
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/6 "2017-01-25T18:43:52Z")
Nice try, but no. Good to see you again Rod! ---
**Author:** ![bobRaskoph](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/bobraskoph/32/75_2.png) [@bobRaskoph](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/bobRaskoph)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/7 "2017-01-25T18:52:39Z")
I think you should mention that this “lack of conceiving” word is not necessarily a verb. That’s what got me stuck, to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/8 "2017-01-25T18:59:28Z")
Okay yeah, thanks Bob. I was holding off giving this other clue but this should help hopefully: When you hear what it is, you might be like, oh, it’s \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ that I didn’t get it! ---
**Author:** ![Rod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/rod/32/240_2.png) [@Rod](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Rod)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/9 "2017-01-25T19:18:01Z")
Hmm, I gave up, and now I’m trying to find it in the comprehensive analyses… but i can’t seem to figure out how to locate the latest ones… ---
**Author:** ![MWollaeger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mwollaeger/32/82_2.png) [@MWollaeger](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/MWollaeger)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/10 "2017-01-26T17:29:52Z")
You keep saying “clues.” I don’t think that words means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![Greg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@Greg](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Greg)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/11 "2017-01-26T18:07:05Z")
What? IN…comprehensible? ---
**Author:** ![crayzbrian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/crayzbrian/32/300_2.png) [@crayzbrian](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/crayzbrian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/12 "2017-01-26T19:35:24Z")
Inconceivable? Princess Bride. Haha. ---
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/13 "2017-01-26T20:39:29Z")
That’s hilarious Mike – even more so because I was going to log on here and write the exact same thing, even substituting the word “clue” for “word” in Inigo’s quote. Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/14 "2017-01-26T20:39:39Z")
You got it Brian! You win! EDIT: unless @MWollaeger 's joke was a guess, then he was the first one to get it – not sure Mike if you already knew from another source? ---
**Author:** ![MWollaeger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mwollaeger/32/82_2.png) [@MWollaeger](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/MWollaeger)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/15 "2017-01-26T21:08:44Z")
I already knew. I hope I didn’t blow the game for you. ---
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/16 "2017-01-26T22:18:29Z")
No! Like I said, I was actually going to post that exact clue/joke when I opened Discuss, and saw that you’d already done it! ---
**Author:** ![jhull](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/jhull/32/3_2.png) [@jhull](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhull)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/17 "2017-01-27T20:09:22Z")
Well, Mike spoiled the surprise, but yes we now have an official comprehensive analysis for _The Princess Bride_. [My thoughts on the analysis](http://narrativefirst.com/blog/2017/01/the-long-awaited-deep-analysis-of-the-princess-bride) [Direct link to _The Princess Bride_ analysis](http://narrativefirst.com/blog/2017/01/the-long-awaited-deep-analysis-of-the-princess-bride) ---
**Author:** ![Prish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/prish/32/33_2.png) [@Prish](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Prish)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/18 "2017-01-27T20:24:18Z")
OK, can you spell it out? I looked over every film title of the 80’s. ---
**Author:** ![MWollaeger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mwollaeger/32/82_2.png) [@MWollaeger](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/MWollaeger)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/19 "2017-01-27T20:52:48Z")
@mlucas – that’s a great, very comprehensive analysis. Nice work!! It’s almost incredible how many examples you found, and yet, the story doesn’t feel remotely thin or biased towards “just a few things” – the reverse: it feels super rich! ---
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861/20 "2017-01-27T21:27:24Z")
Thanks Mike! That means a lot. Of course I was lucky that Goldman and Reiner made it so easy. I think I’ll start another thread to talk about the process. EDIT: [here it is](http://discuss.dramatica.com/t/about-the-princess-bride-analysis/865) Sorry for spoiling the surprise Jim @jhull! I just couldn’t wait to share I guess. 😁 @Prish, sorry the clues were so vague … you really had to luck out and hit on the word _Inconceivable_ to get it. [Next page](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/challenge-dramatica-guessing-game/861.md?page=2)