# Choosing the right concerns

**URL:** <https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841>\
**Category:** Writing\
**Created:** [June 9, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841 "2018-06-09T21:49:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rachel\_Blot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/rachel_blot/32/1482_2.png) [@Rachel\_Blot](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Rachel_Blot)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/1 "2018-06-09T21:49:04Z")

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Usually I find it hard to choose the right concerns when writing a story (same with the throughlines from time to time). So I try to brainstorm the “feel” of this story to see which quad of concerns would be better for what I intend to create. If it can be of use, or if you want to put your opinion out there… Here goes !

**Past - Understanding - Conceptualizing - Memory :** stories about burdens. Guilt and obsession, finding relief and moving on or getting consummed by one’s demons. Skeletons in the closet ; shining the light on something from the past, figuring how things fit together, finding the truth or entertaining a lie.

**Present - Learning - Conceiving - Conscious :** stories about survival. Finding ways to get by or getting swallowed whole, abilities against limitations. Observing, deliberating, innovating and reinventing. Bettering or worsening current situations through action or inaction.

**Progress - Doing - Being - Preconscious :** stories about evolution. Moving forward, backward, or being plain stuck ; finding a new direction is enough (=/= price). Battling forth against others and oneself, action without rest, effectiveness over results, impulses. Having control, struggling to keep it or completely losing it.

**Future - Obtaining - Becoming - Subconscious :** stories about loss and gains. Tangible thing at the end of the road (=/= direction). Construction or destruction, opportunities to seize. Deep desires / fears and complete transformation of world and characters. Life-changing, inability to go back.

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**Author:** ![jhull](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/jhull/32/3_2.png) [@jhull](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhull)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/2 "2018-06-09T21:49:43Z")

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Incredible collection!! Thanks for sharing.

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**Author:** ![YellowSuspenders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a6a055/32.png) [@YellowSuspenders](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/YellowSuspenders)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/3 "2018-06-09T22:13:58Z")

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> [@Rachel\_Blot](#):
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> t hard to choose the right concerns when writing a story (same with the throughlines from time to time). So I try to brainstorm the “feel” of this story to see which quad of concerns would be better for what I intend to create. If it can be of use, or if you want to put your opinion out there… Here goes !
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> Past - Understanding - Conceptualizing - Memory : stories about burdens. Guilt and obsession, finding relief and moving on or getting consummed by one’s demons. Skeletons in the closet ; shining the light on something from the past, figuring how things fit together, finding the truth or entertaining a lie.

This is really awesome and I’d love to see more!

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**Author:** ![Lakis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/lakis/32/1816_2.png) [@Lakis](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Lakis)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/4 "2018-06-09T22:55:58Z")

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This is fantastic. Extremely useful!

Bookmarked!

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**Author:** ![GetSchwifty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/getschwifty/32/2581_2.png) [@GetSchwifty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/GetSchwifty)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/5 "2018-06-09T23:00:19Z")

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You have to keep going with this.

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**Author:** ![HaroldLloyd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/haroldlloyd/32/405_2.png) [@HaroldLloyd](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/HaroldLloyd)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/6 "2018-06-10T02:22:24Z")

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My cynical guide:  
Past, etc - Every supernatural horror movie (or movie about unresolved grief).  
Present, etc - Every movie that wins awards from the 1950s or 2000s.  
Progress, etc - Every movie with a boy, man-child, or competition on the poster.  
Future, etc - Every movie that makes money.

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**Author:** ![GetSchwifty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/getschwifty/32/2581_2.png) [@GetSchwifty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/GetSchwifty)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/7 "2018-06-10T02:28:24Z")

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oh go back to climbing that building.

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**Author:** ![RailwayAdventurer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@RailwayAdventurer](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/RailwayAdventurer)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/8 "2018-06-10T02:40:00Z")

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Wow, this is amazing! I’ll be coming back to this post often.

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**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/9 "2018-06-10T12:50:23Z")

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Wow this is great! Thanks Rachel.

Here is a list I made a while back of how the concern quadrants “feel”. Not sure how much of this feeling is personal and would differ between people, so YMMV.

- Bottom-left: “powerful”
- Bottom-right: “golden” / “inner light”
- Top-right: “light-hearted” / “playful” (I’m still working on this)
- Top-left: “heavy”

Does anyone else have a way to describe these commonalities of feeling? They’re almost like a colour you can see in your mind when you think of the story.

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**Author:** ![Prish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/prish/32/33_2.png) [@Prish](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Prish)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/11 "2018-06-12T21:39:47Z")

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> [@mlucas](#):
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> Bottom-left: “powerful”  
> Bottom-right: “golden” / “inner light”  
> Top-right: “light-hearted” / “playful” (I’m still working on this)  
> Top-left: “heavy”

```
•	Bottom-left: BASIC
•	Bottom-right: IN SYNC
•	Top-right: WARM FUZZY
•	Top-left: BAGGAGE

```

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**Author:** ![Lakis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/lakis/32/1816_2.png) [@Lakis](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Lakis)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/12 "2018-06-12T22:23:28Z")

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@mlucas and @Prish You started making me question my (pretty dark) top-right story with your “light-hearted/playful/warm fuzzy” metaphors but then I realized that _Silence of the Lambs_ is a top-right story – am I misunderstanding which quad is where? (Or am I just reading into it too much?)

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**Author:** ![jhay](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/jhay/32/1944_2.png) [@jhay](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhay)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/13 "2018-06-12T23:27:04Z")

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> [@mlucas](#):
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> Does anyone else have a way to describe these commonalities of feeling? They’re almost like a colour you can see in your mind when you think of the story.

That’s a beautiful way of saying it. I definitely think of it as though the story is tinted a certain way. I think they’re probably different for everyone, too. For me:

Obtaining, etc.: I struggle to describe this one. I have a clear feeling for it, but I can’t think of a word that fits.  
Doing, etc.: bubbly (this one always has an indie movie vibe to it in my brain)  
Learning, etc.: cerebral  
Understanding, etc.: reflective

Worth noting, I don’t write much drama. I stay in the lighter end of things, so mostly work with the obtaining/doing areas. Didn’t think about that until now. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Prish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/prish/32/33_2.png) [@Prish](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Prish)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/16 "2018-06-12T23:49:42Z")

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> [@Lakis](#):
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> (Or am I just reading into it too much?)

Definitely! Consider this improv…no science just fun flow.

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**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/17 "2018-06-13T04:32:07Z")

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No, I was finding the top-right the hardest to pin down in words and still working at it. I was trying to find a commonality of feeling between _Star Wars_, _Breaking Away_, _Iron Giant_ and _Being John Malkovich_. Didn’t consider _Silence of the Lambs_, it’s been a super long time since I saw that. Maybe there is some playful vibe in how it treats such a dark subject? Don’t recall that though.

I agree with Prish though, these are only generalities, and maybe don’t fit so well in every case.

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**Author:** ![Lakis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/lakis/32/1816_2.png) [@Lakis](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Lakis)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/18 "2018-06-13T12:09:55Z")

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> [@mlucas](#):
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> Maybe there is some playful vibe in how it treats such a dark subject?

Hm, interesting - there is something playfully twisted maybe in the way Lecter and Clarisse interact in that movie. A dark comic vibe. But anyway it’s s weird one because it’s an OS Universe story.

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**Author:** ![Emm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/emm/32/915_2.png) [@Emm](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Emm)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/19 "2018-09-30T12:25:45Z")

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“Past - Understanding - Conceptualizing - Memory : stories about burdens. Guilt and obsession, finding relief and moving on or getting consummed by one’s demons. Skeletons in the closet ; shining the light on something from the past, figuring how things fit together, finding the truth or entertaining a lie.”

Rachel, please, p!ease me, yeah, and post some more! For a fledgling like me, this is priceless help. I’m a kinesthetic too, so diagrams and visual aides added is a bonus. Thanx. Emm.

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**Author:** ![Emm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/emm/32/915_2.png) [@Emm](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Emm)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/20 "2018-10-02T12:23:31Z")

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“moving on” would that be “Undersatanding?” and if so, would this apply to a character trying to overcome a dependancy?

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**Author:** ![Rachel\_Blot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/rachel_blot/32/1482_2.png) [@Rachel\_Blot](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Rachel_Blot)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/21 "2018-10-02T19:23:39Z")

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“Moving on” would be in regards to something that happened before - the death of a loved one, a mistake creating guilt… Which, for a MC, would be a concern of the Past usually. Take Cobb from _Inception_, for example.

A character overcoming a dependancy would probably be in Psychology (the change in attitude and psychological damage), in Mind (being stuck in the same old habit/pattern) or even Universe (being physically dependant on something, although I doubt it was your intent). It would be harder to fit into Physics.

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**Author:** ![Emm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/emm/32/915_2.png) [@Emm](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Emm)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/22 "2018-10-02T20:16:21Z")

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Thank you Rachel! So, then, if the OS were one of dependency (where all of the characters are trying to either feed a dependency or overcome one) would that, then, make the OS Domain one of Psychology?

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**Author:** ![Emm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/emm/32/915_2.png) [@Emm](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Emm)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/choosing-the-right-concerns/1841/23 "2018-10-02T20:54:23Z")

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Thank you Rachel! So, then, if the OS were one of dependency (where all of  
the characters are trying to either feed a dependency or overcome one)  
would that, then, make the OS Domain one of Psychology?

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