# Dramatica Story Expert 5.3 update for Mac
**URL:** https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639
**Category:** archived-technology
**Created:** [April 11, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639 "2018-04-11T19:04:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@chuntley](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/chuntley)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/1 "2018-04-11T19:04:22Z")
Write Brothers has released a new version Dramatica Story Expert for Mac. It is version 5.3 and is a _free update_ for those who have Dramatica Story Expert 5.0.
The new version has a few new features and resolves the High Sierra compatibility problems by using a different form of license management – the same license management system as Mac Movie Magic Screenwriter 6.5. Because of that, the update requires a _ **new serial number** _ and software download.
Here is a link with directions on how to update to Dramatica Story Expert 5.3 from v5.0:
- LINK: [Updating from Dramatica Story Expert 5.0 to 5.3](https://techsupport.screenplay.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002479132-Updating-from-Dramatica-Story-Expert-5-0-to-5-3)
Here is a link with a description of what’s new in 5.3:
- LINK: [Update Notes for Dramatica Story Expert 5.3](https://techsupport.screenplay.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002171512-Update-Notes-for-Dramatica-Story-Expert-5-3)
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### Author:  [@GetSchwifty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/GetSchwifty)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/2 "2018-04-11T19:21:58Z")
!!!
Thank you, @chuntley.
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### Author:  [@jassnip](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jassnip)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/3 "2018-04-11T20:09:48Z")
OMGods! The new compare feature! I’m in love!
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### Author:  [@MiggsEye](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/MiggsEye)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/4 "2018-04-11T23:48:27Z")
Looking forward to updating. Thank you.
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### Author:  [@museful](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/museful)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/5 "2018-04-12T00:48:06Z")
I hate you Apple. I have an iMac that is 8 years old. Still kicking. Best computer I’ve had… but I run Dramatica on my Windows system. My wife gets to use the Job’s era machine. 😭
C’est la vie.
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### Author:  [@Jain](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Jain)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/6 "2018-04-12T06:55:05Z")
I just upgraded to 5.3, but unfortunately it crashes every time I try to save (even after several restarts of the computer). Please help! I use Dramatica every day on all my work! Is there a way to go back to 5.0? Thanks in advance!
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### Author:  [@Jain](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Jain)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/7 "2018-04-12T07:04:43Z")
Okay, I was able to go back to 5.0 and it works fine. Is anyone else having this issue with 5.3? Just for reference, I’m running a MacBook Pro on 10.13.4.
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### Author:  [@Prish](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Prish)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 7:21am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/8 "2018-04-12T07:21:36Z")
Have you tried uninstall and trashing download, then starting over from the link in the email you got? I did some juggling with 1 in cart, then adding the S/N from the email and starting a new account so I could log in. I was watching TV with the husband, so I wasn’t paying attention to what I was doing, I thought. But, maybe I had to do it, again.
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### Author:  [@GetSchwifty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/GetSchwifty)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/9 "2018-04-12T14:48:58Z")
Mine’s working fine with latest MacOS on a brand new MacBook Pro. I overwrote a 5.0 installation.
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### Author:  [@Jain](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Jain)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/10 "2018-04-12T15:24:42Z")
Interesting. I overwrote the 5.0 install as well when I installed 5.3 (it did it for me during installation, to be more precise). To get back to the older version, I had to trash the 5.3 and re-download 5.0. The 5.0 version saves without any issues, as per usual. It’s strange. I’ll wait a bit and then try again. I can’t be without Dramatica! 😃
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### Author:  [@GetSchwifty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/GetSchwifty)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/11 "2018-04-12T16:04:08Z")
was 5.3 possibly trying to save to an invalid location?
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### Author:  [@Jain](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Jain)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/12 "2018-04-12T16:06:36Z")
No, I was selecting the save location to my normal folder for writing. I would then click save the story form and the app would shut down and disappear. It was very weird. I tried saving to various locations with the same result. I’m okay for now as long as I have 5.0. Thanks for the help!!
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### Author:  [@GetSchwifty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/GetSchwifty)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/13 "2018-04-12T17:29:07Z")
suggestion: check your system log and see if some kind of error was recorded at the times of the crashes.
[https://support.omnigroup.com/console-osx/](https://support.omnigroup.com/console-osx/)
[https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6479662](https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6479662)
if you find anything interesting, you might want to let @chuntley know. Better yet, tech support at [screenplay.com](http://screenplay.com)
I know that’s all technical and stuff :-/
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### Author:  [@Jain](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Jain)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/14 "2018-04-12T17:41:25Z")
Okay, I went through the system log and found errors – some kind of bug related to a potential memory leak with the new version (according to the log). I will send the log to Chris/tech support. Thanks for your help!
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### Author:  [@GetSchwifty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/GetSchwifty)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/15 "2018-04-12T17:42:06Z")
Good for you! Well done.
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### Author:  [@chuntley](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/chuntley)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/16 "2018-04-12T18:48:42Z")
I recommend removing all old versions of the Dramatica Story Expert app, or rename the Dramatica Story Expert folder to “Old Dramatica Story Expert”, and then reinstall.
We are considering having DSE 5.3 install in its own folder to avoid pieces of various versions existing within the same folder, which is what I believe is the source of the crash.
In the future, I recommend that you go to our new support site to report technical problems: [https://techsupport.screenplay.com](https://techsupport.screenplay.com). Use the support form, or look up answers to common problems in the online as well.
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### Author:  [@JBarker](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/JBarker)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/17 "2018-04-12T23:15:36Z")
I had the same problem. I tried what Chris mentioned with renaming the old folder, but it still wasn’t working. I ended up deleting both folders, making sure there were no saved files from myself in them first, then downloaded the update again, installed and activated. Works fine now.
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### Author:  [@whitepaws](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/whitepaws)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/18 "2018-04-13T16:28:55Z")
Now I’m worried because mine didn’t crash!! LOL!
5.3 version is working just fine on the first install with the old version still there.
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### Author:  [@Prish](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Prish)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/19 "2018-04-13T19:05:23Z")
I’m thinking of trashing both, then reinstalling 5.3, just in case…
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### Author:  [@GetSchwifty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/GetSchwifty)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/dramatica-story-expert-5-3-update-for-mac/1639/20 "2018-04-13T23:49:49Z")
anyone else noticed that typing in story points field has s l o w e d w a a a y d o w n
I dropped a note to tech support and made a movie of it.
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