# Stuck between Subtxt and Narrato **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [July 23, 2025, 11:53am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027 "2025-07-23T11:53:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hakim\_al-muftah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/hakim_al-muftah/32/2566_2.png) [@hakim\_al-muftah](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/hakim_al-muftah)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 11:53am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/1 "2025-07-23T11:53:05Z")
I used Narrato to help me draft a storyform for my novel. It did an incredible job, from what I can tell, giving me a solid and exciting storyform that I was looking forward to bringing over into Subtxt to develop further (and then export out into Scrivener). Unfortunately, it was not to be. From what I can tell, there’s not an easy way to simply import or transfer the storyform from Narrato to Subtxt (someone please correct me if I’m wrong about this). No problem. I decided to use the Storyform Builder to create my entire storyform from scratch. Yet, it looks like there are some controls missing there. I can set most story dynamics but not all, which ended up with the storyform I created in Subtxt being inaccurate (resulting in the Signposts being completely wrong, for example, with no way to change them once the storyform is created). So, I’m stuck. I’ve got a great storyform created in Narrato I want to use (Narrato says it’s a “legal” storyform, but I don’t know how to check that for sure, and the tools it mentions to do that don’t seem to exist), but Subtxt can’t import or recreate that exact storyform. Any help or suggestions here would be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![jhull](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/jhull/32/3_2.png) [@jhull](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhull)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/2 "2025-07-23T17:50:18Z")
Sry about this - its only temporary as we port everything over from Subtxt into the new Subtxt/Dramatica platform - can you let us know what the settings were that Narrato helped you get down to? ---
**Author:** ![hakim\_al-muftah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/hakim_al-muftah/32/2566_2.png) [@hakim\_al-muftah](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/hakim_al-muftah)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 1:38am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/3 "2025-07-25T01:38:07Z")
Below is the block that Narrato created for me with all of the story settings. Is this what you mean? ### 1. Story Dynamics • Story Driver …………………… Decision • Story Limit ……………………… Time (comet’s peak/full moon in 3 days) • Story Outcome ……………… Success • Story Judgment …………… Good • MC Resolve ………………… Change (Released) • MC Growth ………………… Stop • MC Approach / Form …… Do-er • Problem-Solving Style …… Linear * * * ### 2. Throughlines, Concerns, Issues, Problems/Solutions | Throughline | Domain | Concern | Issue | Problem | Solution | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Objective Story (OS) | Physics | Understanding | Interpretation | Perception | Actuality | | Main Character (Minerva) | Universe | Past | Fate | Perception | Actuality | | Influence Character (Vesuvius) | Mind | Memory | Evidence | Suspicion | Evidence | | Relationship Story (Minerva ÷ Vesuvius) | Psychology | Conceptualizing | Sense of Self | State of Being | Situation | • OS Catalyst …………………… Senses • OS Inhibitor …………………… Instinct • RS Catalyst …………………… State of Being • RS Inhibitor …………………… Situation * * * ### 3. Story Goal & Other OS Storypoints • Story Goal …………………… Understanding (decode & neutralise the plague spell) • Story Consequence ……… Conceptualizing (endless, futile scheme-making) • Story Habituation ………… Nightly data-gathering / rune-catalogue routines • Story Internalization ……… Characters form new concepts (heart-witness rule, etc.) • Story Socialization ………… Mindful rituals—brazier tales, rune etiquette—bond allies • Story Pressure ……………… Memory spikes (fire flashbacks, Lucrezia diary) • Story Excitement …………… Past relics suddenly align with present clues • Story Ennui …………………… Dead-air lulls that precede each breakthrough * * * ### 4. Signpost / Transit Order (Acts I → IV) | Throughline | SP-1 | SP-2 | SP-3 | SP-4 | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | OS | Learning → Doing → Obtaining → Understanding | | | | | MC | Past → Progress → Present → Future | | | | | IC | Memory → Pre-conscious → Subconscious → Conscious | | | | | RS | Conceptualizing → Being → Becoming → Conceiving | | | | (Transits follow standard Variation order inside each Signpost.) * * * ### 5. Pivotal Elements • MC Pivotal Element ……… Perception • IC Pivotal Element ……… Actuality * * * ### 6. Unique Ability / Critical Flaw • MC Unique Ability ……… Interdiction (acts to head off foreseen disaster) • MC Critical Flaw ………… Prediction (treats forecasts as certainties) • IC Unique Ability ………… Suspicion (nose for inconsistencies) • IC Critical Flaw ………… Prediction (jumps to unproved forecasts) * * * ### 7. Driver Sequence (Decision-driven) 1. Vesuvius **decides** to rescue Minerva. 2. Minerva **decides** to trust her Sight and collaborate. 3. Stoat **decides** to betray the Pale Woman and steal her heart. 4. Vesuvius **decides** duty to Lucrezia outweighs romance (kiss rejection). 5. Minerva **decides** to smash the heart in the sorceress’s sight. ---
**Author:** ![jhull](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/jhull/32/3_2.png) [@jhull](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhull)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/4 "2025-07-25T21:35:48Z")
Thanks so much for your patience. Setting Time for the Story Limit is not as common for Options, so you picked one that hasn’t been created yet. I went ahead and built it in Subtxt, so you should have access to it now immediately. Just follow the screenshots below in the Storyform Builder and Subtxt will attach it to your story. ![IMG_1213](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/uploads/dramatica/original/2X/8/8b15789e28b2375927e25454a1f063201555602d.jpeg) ![IMG_1214](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/uploads/dramatica/original/2X/c/c7b6924604b2c0d55bd3e2e6c2bf3db17bae42c2.jpeg) ![IMG_1216](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/uploads/dramatica/original/2X/b/b361658b496366864f0860dcd6bb083277681dc5.jpeg) I update the available Storyforms in Narrova weekly while we port over everything from Subtxt. So you should be able to automatically add it to your story there soon. Let me know if you have any questions! ---
**Author:** ![hakim\_al-muftah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/hakim_al-muftah/32/2566_2.png) [@hakim\_al-muftah](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/hakim_al-muftah)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/5 "2025-07-26T17:52:25Z")
Awesome! Thanks so much! Thank you for your responsiveness. You’re doing really great work here. ---
**Author:** ![Lakis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/lakis/32/1816_2.png) [@Lakis](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Lakis)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/6 "2025-08-08T03:12:27Z")
@jhull Sorry to ask a stupid question but I feel like I may have missed an email or something. I’m a little confused as to what’s going on with the integration of Dramatica and Subtxt. What is Narrato/Narrova? Is it the new version of the old Dramatica software? Do Subtxt subscribers have access to it? (If so where do we find it and how do we get access?) I see that there’s now a separate Dramatica website (but my Subxt credentials don’t work on it). No need for a detailed explanation, just wondering if I was missing something obvious. ---
**Author:** ![jhull](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/jhull/32/3_2.png) [@jhull](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhull)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 3:50am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/7 "2025-08-08T03:50:21Z")
GREAT question, and no worries I know it’s a little disorienting. Narrova is our new multi-agentic narrative intelligence. This is a fancy way of saying it’s the next version of Muse–just without all the bugs/crashing/context timeouts of the past. I moved away from Muse because it’s the most unimaginative name possible for a narrative AI. Subtxt/Dramatica is our new narrative platform–a platform that you will eventually be able to tap into and build on top of. Narrova and Subtxt are the two first applications on the platform, and we have more planned in the future. There will likely be a new name eventually to replace Subtxt/Dramatica once we get everything squared away. A subscription to Subtxt is a subscription to the Subtxt/Dramatica platform. Credentials are separate so you will have to register for an account on the new platform and then we will migrate over your subscription. ### Important URLs - [https://dramatica.com](https://dramatica.com) – home base for all things Dramatica theory (recordings will be eventually here, etc.) - [https://platform.dramatica.com](https://platform.dramatica.com) – this is the home of the new narrative platform. This is where you register and login to use applications like Subtxt or Narrova ---
**Author:** ![mlucas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/mlucas/32/275_2.png) [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/8 "2025-08-08T20:43:09Z")
Thanks for the info Jim! Very cool. 😎 > [@jhull](#): > > Credentials are separate so you will have to register for an account on the new platform and then we will migrate over your subscription. Assuming we have to ask you once we create the account, what’s the best way? (I just created an account, and as you know I do have a basic Subtxt subscription.) ---
**Author:** ![jhull](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/discuss.dramatica.com/jhull/32/3_2.png) [@jhull](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhull)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/stuck-between-subtxt-and-narrato/4027/9 "2025-08-08T22:14:47Z")
I would use the in-app Help for the platform ([https://platform.dramatica.com](https://platform.dramatica.com) then click Help at the top!)