Moved this since it seems you’d rather not address anything about Infinity War in your responses.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to—this hasn’t been my experience dealing with writers, directors, and producers. You might be projecting your own experiences onto the “struggle” of someone who works with Dramatica for a living.
When a story fails to tell a functioning argument, people tend to project their own interpretations of life experiences into what they see in an effort to fill in the blanks. I gave you a concrete example where you imagined something about Thor that wasn’t in the film. That wasn’t meant to keep you anywhere, that was an attempt to give you an example of someone adding to a narrative something that wasn’t there.
This works in Moonlight because it’s actually part of the experience intended by the Authors. They purposefully left it open what he did in those intervening years. The Marvel guys didn’t leave it open to interpretation why Thor missed his head so that the Audience could fill in a part of their personal experience. They’re not that kind of Author.
Your imagined reason for Thor’s error is awesome, and I would’ve loved it if there was some greater meaning to it like that, but there wasn’t—he just missed.
A Throughline is a perspective. A Tale is a bunch of events that happen. Two totally different things.
I assume you’re referring to your Mentorship with me. That would be a misunderstanding on your part—I would never refer to a Tale as a single Throughline.
I have a great visualization that Chris made that I can upload tomorrow. It should help clear things up.
We did the same thing with Infinity War. You should read the whole thread.
No, Moonlight is not a Tale. It’s really clear that the Authors purposefully left that part out as part of the experience of that story. The missing parts of Infinity War do not compare.
I’m sure this is meant to be a dig at me. In my original analysis of Doubt—done solely by me—I said there wasn’t a storyform. No one said anything about it or challenged me on it for seven years.
Later, I corrected my mistake—having to prove that to others, and engaging their responses, helped make that a reality.
The analysis of Infinity War was not done in isolation.
The original analysis of Fight Club was scheduled for Sept. 11, 2001. I’m pretty sure the events of that day had something to do with the analysis of it as an incomplete story.
We’ve talked several times about trying it again and I would be happy to see that—I agree that it feels as if it has a complete storyform.
Asking what is a broken Tale is like asking what is a broken golf swing—it’s meaningless.