# Where are all 'justification' articles
**URL:** https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/where-are-all-justification-articles/3814
**Category:** Dramatica Theory
**Created:** [August 18, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/where-are-all-justification-articles/3814 "2023-08-18T16:21:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@Seener](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Seener)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/where-are-all-justification-articles/3814/1 "2023-08-18T16:21:08Z")
Hello,
I did try to refresh ‘justification’ concept and it seems like all ‘justification’ articles disappeared from the [narrativefirst.com](http://narrativefirst.com).
Is there a chance to find it anywhere?
Thank you for help.
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### Author:  [@Seener](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/Seener)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/where-are-all-justification-articles/3814/2 "2023-08-21T15:29:18Z")
Well, If there is no news on these articles maybe someone have a copy in own files.
I appreciate if you can share. 🙂
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### Author:  [@jhull](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhull)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/where-are-all-justification-articles/3814/3 "2023-10-04T00:52:41Z")
They don’t exist anymore on Narrative First because they were inaccurate. They were trying to teach a concept that was based on a misinterpretation of what a Dramatica storyform is.
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### Author:  [@LunarDynasty](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/LunarDynasty)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/where-are-all-justification-articles/3814/4 "2023-10-14T04:08:53Z")
Is the justification concept in general null and void? I enjoyed a number of the discussions on this forum about it
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### Author:  [@mlucas](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/mlucas)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 3:54am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/where-are-all-justification-articles/3814/5 "2023-10-17T03:54:34Z")
Not to worry – justification is still as important a concept as it ever was. As I understand it, the issues were only with the specific justification formula(e) found in those particular articles.
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### Author:  [@jhull](https://discuss.dramatica.com/u/jhull)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://discuss.dramatica.com/t/where-are-all-justification-articles/3814/6 "2023-12-15T08:29:33Z")
Yes. A lot of it was based on a misunderstanding of mine that propagated through others, namely that there are justifications within each Storypoint.
It was leading many to circular reasoning and rabbit holes.