Illustrations of Logical vs. Intuitive?

The difference between Logical and Intuitive is practically infamous for how tricky it is to explain. At least, to me it always seems very confusing. Logical and Intuitive thinkers are fundamentally opposed to each other, which means if you think one way, it’s tough for you to imagine the other way. Which illustrations have worked best for you to explain to yourself the difference between the two?

I’ve come up with a lot, but this one really seemed to open my eyes. Imagine you’re going to a job interview on the fifth floor of a building, and you’re almost about to be late. The interviewer told you that he hates it when people show up late, so you have to decide between the elevator or the stairs. If you run up the stairs, you’ll make it in time, but you’ll be sweaty, tired, and probably a bit aggravated after all that exercise. Whereas if you take the elevator, you’re going to be late, but you can use the time while you’re riding to smooth out your suit, take some deep breaths, and prepare your responses to the questions. Which do you choose?

Well, to the Logical person, it’s clear: run up the stairs, no matter the consequences. He said you need to be on time, so you’d better darn well be on time. The Intuitive person, on the other hand, will take the elevator because they’re more concerned about all of the different forces at play. They reason that it doesn’t matter if they’re on time or not if the interview goes poorly anyway. They see punctuality as only one factor that might possibly be trumped by good presentation and good answers.

To the Logical person, that view is insane. If the interviewer turns them away at the door because they’re late, then none of those other forces will matter. All the Logical person can see is the Causal link, “If you’re late, you won’t be considered,” and they might be right. To the Intuitive person, the Logical view is just as insane. As I said, the Intuitive person thinks that the punctuality issue is only a small factor, and that pursuing it at the expense of all the other factors is like the monkey reaching for one pea only to drop all the others. And again, they might be right, too. Maybe the interviewer is super-strict about the time, or maybe he’ll be lenient if the other factors are spot-on. It’s really on a case-by-case basis.

So, anyways, anybody else got fun illustrations that help you understand Logical vs. Intuitive (or Linear vs. Holistic or Male vs. Female) better? I’d love to hear them! :smiley:

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Quickly, I think it is best not to use LOGICAL One can be logical and be intuitive or a female thinker. Or should I say being logical does not negate holistic thinking. It may help to use the Linear vs. Holistic in your thinking.

Yes, actingpower, while I enjoy and appreciate your elevator-vs.-stairs illustration, I must agree with SPotter on the better usage of Linear and Holistic.

Since the creators and users are still developing Dramatica Theory, these latter two terms are simply the latest in a series of terms used for this Problem-Solving Style distinction — but they are certainly more precise (and both-gender-friendly) than the original Male and Female terms, and more expansive and embracing than the intermediate Logical and Intuitive.

Just protecting and defending that Dramatica precision…

I find The Joker’s behavior in The Dark Knight extremely useful to think about.

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I think this thread:

Was a very good in-depth conversation on this subject. LunarDynasty had a very good breakdown towards the end imo.

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This is a rather odd way of thinking about it that I just came up with. Does it have any merit?

Linear thinkers like switches. Hollistic thinkers like dials.

@SPotter @keypayton Fair enough. I’m just used to “Logical” and “Intuitive” since that’s what’s in the demo version. But I think I do like Linear and Holistic better. It helps remove the sort of mystery behind the Intuitive aspect. After all, there is a logic to the Holistic mind, just one different to the Linear one. (Not to mention, as @SPotter demonstrated, the confusion between the Logical PSS and the Logic Element.)

As long as we don’t stick to Male and Female. I think that’s kinda problematic. :frowning:

@Dan310 I tried to read that page at one point, but it was very confusing to try and extract what I wanted out of all the arguing and clashing examples. (Especially since they’re, again, movies I haven’t seen… :blush:) That “world superpower” example is pretty good, though, so… thank you! :smile:

One presumes, most of you are men and therefore are most likely linear thinkers. I have the capability to be very logical, it was a requirement of my upbringing. My dad was the king of logic and I’ve often described him as someone who could out Spok, Spok. I am, however, a web thinker which is the term you are looking for as far as I can tell. First let me offer, if you have any questions about how a web thinker thinks feel free to ask me and I’ll do my best to answer. I almost bust a gut during the beginning of the story embroidery the other night when Chris went with “everyone in the room was a man therefore linear was the only way to go.” It’s sort of true…you can make a web thinker follow the chain See me and my dad above*. I haven’t seen a linear thinker be able to make the leaps that I can. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve said something about something or someone that according to a linear approach I couldn’t possibly know. But I do.

There are plenty of male web thinkers, I’ma throw out Robin Williams (most comedians, actually) and George RR Martin out as examples, President Clinton too.

Web thinking is a matter of synthesis of already known bits. You get one small detail and can immediately place it into the set of the chunk of data you’ve already got. Ever have that instant jolt of recognition when you’re putting a puzzle together and suddenly your eye falls on the exact piece you’re looking for and you know without checking that THAT’s the piece, when for the last 15 minutes you’ve checked 30 pieces that weren’t right and there’s another 222 pieces spread out on the table? That’s what web thinking is like.

One time I was at a mall around xmas time and I was watching a young couple making plans to meet up later and I saw them miscommunicate. She heard him say one thing and he meant something totally different. I walked over and told them they’d misunderstood each other. They looked at me like I was nuts. So I looked at her and said, “You heard xyz, right?” “Yes,” said she. “But you meant mnop, right?” “Yeah,” said he. At which point I wandered off leaving them a lil dumbfounded, but it let them straighten themselves out. I’ve always convinced myself that I saved them from a fight of “You said, but I meant.” If someone asked me what I saw I’m not sure I could explain it…expectation? similar situations? Something.

Web thinking does leave us with blind spots though. We can follow a chain of thought/links/linear, but if we’re missing an elemental piece only a single chain will light up, as opposed to the entire web/net of connections. It’s crazy frustrating. We also tend to be a bit impatient with linear thinkers, because they take a lot longer to get to the place we jump to. And gods forbid that we’re asked to explain the chain of logic, cause frequently the answer is “That’s just the way it is.”

Does this help? Any questions?

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