Is Genre to Story what Archetypes are to Characters?

The book says, “A convenient way to describe Objective Characters is to divide them into two groups: Archetypal Characters and Complex Characters. Archetypes are commonly used objective characters, simple in function and easily recognizable by most audiences. Complex characters use the same character functions as Archetypes, but distribute the functions in more varied patterns.” The book goes on to give examples from published works where several characters were tweaked slightly from their base Archetypes, making them a more interesting (or at least more novel) and/or giving them greater depth.

In the extreme, Dramatica seems to allow for character functions to be some shuffled around that the original Archetypes on which they may or may not have been based become unrecognizable. The only rules are that a single character cannot “contain” both characteristics of any dynamic pair, the pool of characters should cover all character functions among them, and no two characters should share the same function.

Since you can take your structural design to that extreme, don’t the Archetypes become non-essential? If you use them, it helps with audience recognition and Story Reception, but they are not an inherent part of Dramatica’s structural model.

Similarly, common combinations of “the elements of structure, dynamics, character, plot, and theme” will be more recognizable to audiences than unconventional combinations, and this familiarity will impact the “audience’s experience of a story in the broadest sense”. If you deviate far enough from the conventional, the Story has no stereotypical Genre. Of course, the audience can still experience your Story, but Dramatica’s concept of Genre is that it “classifies the audience’s experience” (emphasis mine). My question is, is your Story really classifiable? If not, then does it have Genre?

Characters can exist without Archetypes, it seems. Can Story (or more precisely, a Grand Argument Story) exist without Genre?

Perusing at the book store, there appear to be novels that seem to have no genre, but I wonder how financially successful are the publications. I can see writers might enjoy letting loose an idea, but as a reader, I enjoy genre. Audience Reception is a part of Dramatica, so that might have some input. Of course, genre in Dramatica is different than genre in publication, but the overall principle might be the same. I wonder if there are any Dramatica.com story analyses without genre.

I think there is a place in the book that says something like, “Each storyform is a unique genre.”

But, to your larger point, yes: everything is mixable. Archetypes are not necessary – I think what is relevant is that archetypes are easily constructed from the model, and that demonstrates that Dramatica is not a complete revolution in story thinking, just that when it is used in specific ways we get to familiar territory.

OK, I think I’ve got it. Pertinent quotes from http://dramatica.com/theory/book/genre:

Beginning as one among a broadly identifiable group of stories and ending where no other story has gone before, each story develops its own unique Genre.

and

By the end of the story, the progressive shift of Throughlines provides the combination for the unique Genre of a story.

“Progressive shift” here refers to shifting through modes of expression.

So, it’s more like “Traditional Genre is to Genre what Archetypes are to Characters.”