Is anyone watching Pluribus? It seems like a very interesting story, starting right from the Pilot. We don’t know much about the Storyform yet, but so far, I think it points towards GAS. My current guesses are:
OS Concern: Some kind of Fixed Attitude, Innermost Desires (a super-optimistic, pacifist hivemind vs. the most miserable woman on Earth).
MC Concern: Manipulation, Becoming (Carol).
IC Concern: Activity, Obtaining (Zosia/We).
RS Concern: Situation, Future (The hivemind trying to reconcile/pacify Carol)?
So far, I’d guess the lower left quad for the Storyform… It seems to be an Action Driver, Linear and an Optionlock.
Perhaps Carol is the antagonist?
Does anyone have any ideas or opinions on the show?
it’s a Rick and Morty story—Rick f***s Unity, who is everybody on the planet. every scene in it is a recognizable ripoff from another sci fi story. (e.g. pouring out water bottle = Worf “drink not with thine enemy.”)
it’s bad science fiction written for people who don’t like science fiction written by someone who can’t write good science fiction and apparently doesn’t read or watch much science fiction, or is at least hoping you don’t.
I’m not that well-versed in sci-fi, but I did see that Rick and Morty episode, and the Unity plot also immediately came to my mind after watching the Pluribus pilot. Allegedly, one of the inspirations for the show was Invasion of the Body Snatchers (and, for example, The Truman Show as well…).
For my part, I don’t mind if a core concept isn’t entirely original, as long as the plot is taken in an interesting perspective or some unusual new direction. Although we’ve only seen four episodes so far, I find it interesting, and Vince Gilligan’s strengths include exciting plotting and complex characters, which still have plenty of time to unfold.
Of course, based on what we’ve seen, I can’t prejudge the entire first season, but I am optimistic.
I’m really enjoying it so far. It’s a little hard to assess the storyform until it’s over.
@kf27 I agree that Carol is MC and Zosia/We is the IC (or the Others as Carol calls them).
I can see the argument for lower left – especially Becoming/Obtaining.
My first instinct, though, was lower right, with OS in Psychology/Conceiving – this seems like an idea (thought experiment) story – for example, Carol is frustrated that the other survivors don’t “get it” as to what is happening. The Others want Carol to conceive of how wonderful their experience; she cannot conceive of why this big mind-meld is a good thing. The relationship evolves through Learning.
Wow, this feels totally right. Great insight! I feel like Present works super-well for the Others as well, they’re “here” which means they’re all present at the same time. And when they’re absent (because Carol told them to leave her alone, or because they need to stay away for their own good, even though their “feelings haven’t changed” lol) that means everyone is absent and she’s all alone. So either way it’s causing conflict at an Influence level.
(I am also loving the show, which was your recommendation @Lakis … although there were a couple episodes where I wanted to fast-forward that oft-repeated voicemail message haha!)
Lol I think that was the point – he does make some bold choices with stuff like that to force you to feel Carol’s frustration. Glad you’re enjoying it though.
This seems right to me, though I was on the fence about whether it was Others → Present and Carole → Conscious or vice versa.
The argument for the Others as Conscious is that their “consciousness” (being cognizant) of everything is a source of conflict for them – seeing everything all at once leads them to self-destructive behavior (e.g. not being able to eat anything that’s not already dead). And their “sensitivity” to Carol’s emotions has a Mind feeling to it? (Especially as an influence on her as something she has to deal with).
My wife and I just started Plur1bus yesterday. Only have watched two episodes. Really fascinating premise. Very curious how they handle the storyform – seems obvious at this point the IC are the “Others”. Not sure if this thread will remain spoiler free, but excited to see the show develop.
